wulphe
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Post by wulphe on Dec 19, 2011 23:11:02 GMT -6
Lol. I think Christine wanted Raoul mainly because he wasn't bat-sh*t insane. Imagine you're only 20, you've just been kidnapped by a 50+ year-old guy who looks like the Cryptkeeper, who goes around wearing a creepy, expressionless mask and kills people, then obsesses over you, crawling on his knees kissing the hem of your dress saying you can never leave because you know he looks like a walking corpse... then some sweet innocent fool from your childhood shows up out of nowhere and say he can save you from this crazy dude. This naive boy, no matter how much of a crybaby, is gonna look like freakin' Jesus to you in comparison. Really, all you need right now is a little space to get away from the crazy and breathe, but this is the 1800's, and you have no rights as a woman. There have been much worse fates than marrying a handsome pansy.
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Post by salierisantfarm on Dec 19, 2011 23:25:12 GMT -6
Oh dear...seriously? Like Muirin007 said, Erik is the Chuck Norris of the 1800's. He would not lose a fight, especially against Raoul...in Leroux's book, Leroux describes Raoul as girlish...and he faints all the time. Spoonjab! I still love that. Come to think of it, I can't recall any other famous piece of literature where the male protagonist *faints* from fright... or cries like a child... or is generally useless except for his tenacity in saving Christine. Raoul sure is an interesting hero. Good thing he's a sweetheart or he'd have nothing going for him. Ahem. Dante's Inferno. The man is fainting and crying all throughout the book.
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wulphe
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Post by wulphe on Dec 19, 2011 23:54:53 GMT -6
Come to think of it, I can't recall any other famous piece of literature where the male protagonist *faints* from fright... or cries like a child... or is generally useless except for his tenacity in saving Christine. Raoul sure is an interesting hero. Good thing he's a sweetheart or he'd have nothing going for him. Ahem. Dante's Inferno. The man is fainting and crying all throughout the book. Touche! Then again, the guy IS walking through the depths of Hell, so I can kinda grant him that. Raoul saw an emaciated old man in a graveyard. XD
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Post by asianorange on Dec 20, 2011 0:31:00 GMT -6
Lol. I think Christine wanted Raoul mainly because he wasn't bat-sh*t insane. Imagine you're only 20, you've just been kidnapped by a 50+ year-old guy who looks like the Cryptkeeper, who goes around wearing a creepy, expressionless mask and kills people, then obsesses over you, crawling on his knees kissing the hem of your dress saying you can never leave because you know he looks like a walking corpse... then some sweet innocent fool from your childhood shows up out of nowhere and say he can save you from this crazy dude. This naive boy, no matter how much of a crybaby, is gonna look like freakin' Jesus to you in comparison. Really, all you need right now is a little space to get away from the crazy and breathe, but this is the 1800's, and you have no rights as a woman. There have been much worse fates than marrying a handsome pansy. Hahaha, I agree with this post. Especially a handsome pansy who is head over heels in love with you and will do whatever you want really.
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Post by asianorange on Dec 20, 2011 0:31:19 GMT -6
Ahem. Dante's Inferno. The man is fainting and crying all throughout the book. Touche! Then again, the guy IS walking through the depths of Hell, so I can kinda grant him that. Raoul saw an emaciated old man in a graveyard. XD And this post...hahaha
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Post by briggspower on Dec 20, 2011 7:27:21 GMT -6
Come to think of it, I can't recall any other famous piece of literature where the male protagonist *faints* from fright... or cries like a child... or is generally useless except for his tenacity in saving Christine. Raoul sure is an interesting hero. Good thing he's a sweetheart or he'd have nothing going for him. Ahem. Dante's Inferno. The man is fainting and crying all throughout the book. And Virgil picks him up throughout the book XD
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Post by The-Savage-Nymph on Dec 20, 2011 10:25:58 GMT -6
When I think of E/R, I always think of Erik singing to him "I was made for loving you" Am I mad? We're all mad here. You've just been quoting the Cheshire Cat. miau.
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Post by salierisantfarm on Dec 20, 2011 18:02:35 GMT -6
You've just been quoting the Cheshire Cat. miau. Indeed. ;D
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Post by salierisantfarm on Dec 20, 2011 18:05:54 GMT -6
Ahem. Dante's Inferno. The man is fainting and crying all throughout the book. And Virgil picks him up throughout the book XD YES! So you've read it, too?
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Post by salierisantfarm on Dec 20, 2011 18:08:31 GMT -6
Ahem. Dante's Inferno. The man is fainting and crying all throughout the book. Touche! Then again, the guy IS walking through the depths of Hell, so I can kinda grant him that. Raoul saw an emaciated old man in a graveyard. XD Good point.
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Post by nijil-xnv on Dec 20, 2011 18:41:59 GMT -6
Lol. I think Christine wanted Raoul mainly because he wasn't bat-sh*t insane. Imagine you're only 20, you've just been kidnapped by a 50+ year-old guy who looks like the Cryptkeeper, who goes around wearing a creepy, expressionless mask and kills people, then obsesses over you, crawling on his knees kissing the hem of your dress saying you can never leave because you know he looks like a walking corpse... then some sweet innocent fool from your childhood shows up out of nowhere and say he can save you from this crazy dude. This naive boy, no matter how much of a crybaby, is gonna look like freakin' Jesus to you in comparison. Really, all you need right now is a little space to get away from the crazy and breathe, but this is the 1800's, and you have no rights as a woman. There have been much worse fates than marrying a handsome pansy. I totally agree. But the kissing the hem of her skirt should have endeared Erik to her.
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Post by salierisantfarm on Dec 20, 2011 18:49:03 GMT -6
Lol. I think Christine wanted Raoul mainly because he wasn't bat-sh*t insane. Imagine you're only 20, you've just been kidnapped by a 50+ year-old guy who looks like the Cryptkeeper, who goes around wearing a creepy, expressionless mask and kills people, then obsesses over you, crawling on his knees kissing the hem of your dress saying you can never leave because you know he looks like a walking corpse... then some sweet innocent fool from your childhood shows up out of nowhere and say he can save you from this crazy dude. This naive boy, no matter how much of a crybaby, is gonna look like freakin' Jesus to you in comparison. Really, all you need right now is a little space to get away from the crazy and breathe, but this is the 1800's, and you have no rights as a woman. There have been much worse fates than marrying a handsome pansy. I totally agree. But the kissing the hem of her skirt should have endeared Erik to her. I KNOW!! That was just SO ADORABLE. If Erik was kissing MY skirt, I don't think I could keep myself from just bending down right there and giving him a hug. <3
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Post by nijil-xnv on Dec 20, 2011 18:57:08 GMT -6
I totally agree. But the kissing the hem of her skirt should have endeared Erik to her. I KNOW!! That was just SO ADORABLE. If Erik was kissing MY skirt, I don't think I could keep myself from just bending down right there and giving him a hug. <3 It's like an ugly puppy...that just happens to kill people. What's not to love?
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Post by salierisantfarm on Dec 20, 2011 20:36:21 GMT -6
I KNOW!! That was just SO ADORABLE. If Erik was kissing MY skirt, I don't think I could keep myself from just bending down right there and giving him a hug. <3 It's like an ugly puppy...that just happens to kill people. What's not to love? Never said he didn't have faults. I'm just a bit more susceptible to Stockholm Syndrome than the average person.
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wulphe
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Post by wulphe on Dec 20, 2011 21:10:47 GMT -6
I KNOW!! That was just SO ADORABLE. If Erik was kissing MY skirt, I don't think I could keep myself from just bending down right there and giving him a hug. <3 It's like an ugly puppy...that just happens to kill people. What's not to love? Realistically speaking, have you ever actually had someone grovel at your feet? It's not endearing, it's creepy and disturbing. It doesn't make you love someone, it makes you pity them or in worst cases maybe even repulsed by them. Ladies, here's some advise, if there's ever a mentally deranged man crawling and kissing the hem of your dress, please get away to safety. Then, if you care about them get them help! Never confuse pity for love. If I were in Christine's shoes, and not as inexperienced and innocent as she, I probably would have told him to stop groveling like a fool, then have had a good long talk about respect. I also would have told Raoul to shove off because he really annoys me, despite being a sweetheart. He's an obsessive stalker too, but less interesting to me than Erik. XD
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