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Post by nijil-xnv on Dec 9, 2011 15:24:15 GMT -6
I love Cluade Rains. I love him like I love Vincet Price. ...well, almost as much as I love Vincet Price.
Rains was an awesome Invisiable Man. But he was also an awesome Phantom.
The 1947 film version of Phantom is totally different from Leroux's but it still seems to be high on the list of old "horror" flicks from what I've seen. This was actually the first Phantom I ever saw, and I still remember being little and sitting on green carpet having no idea what was happening other than he got acid thrown in his face and his named sounded extremely close to "Rodan" a Godzilla monster from movies my brother and I watched at the same age...
What do think of it?
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wulphe
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au chapeau de feutre.
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Post by wulphe on Dec 9, 2011 18:31:23 GMT -6
I love Susanna Foster's singing voice! Other than that, the two "Raouls" are kinda funny at first. I also liked how, at the end of the movie, Christine decides she doesn't want to be with any of her suitors, and would rather sing. Rains has a few good lines here and there, but I guess I'm too much of a Leroux fan-girl to be impressed. I also got a creepy vibe from the whole the Phantom was originally supposed to be Christine's father thing, but then they took it out because THEY thought it was creepy too, but you can still kinda feel its mark. I think I might have preferred it if they left it in, and took out any implications that the Phantom loved her as anything other than a daughter. That could have been more touching.
EDIT: OH! And I also immediately give kudos to any PotO version with a blond Christine, or a Raoul with a mustache.
Unfortunately, I've yet to see a proper noseless skull-faced Erik besides Lon Chaney's attempt, which is still the best to date. With all the technology available now, I find that both impressive on Chaney's part, and sad at the lack of modern industry's ability to give a damn.
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Post by nijil-xnv on Dec 10, 2011 12:44:19 GMT -6
Isn't she blonde in everything but ALW, really?
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wulphe
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Post by wulphe on Dec 10, 2011 21:38:12 GMT -6
Hmm.. off the top of my head, the only blond Christines I can think of, beside Leroux's, is Susanna Foster and Teri Polo in the Dance miniseries. Mary Philbin, in the Chaney version is brunette, as is Jill Schoelen in the Englund version, and of course all the ALW versions, including the movie, and the cartoon version also has a brunette Christine too. Same with most fan-novels I've read... Oh.. I almost forgot Asia Argento, if that movie counts. I think that covers all the big names. O.o
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Post by nijil-xnv on Dec 11, 2011 8:38:30 GMT -6
Huh. I feel like she was blonde in more than that... She's blonde in the fan fiction I've read.
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Post by The-Savage-Nymph on Dec 15, 2011 15:59:46 GMT -6
Huh. I feel like she was blonde in more than that... She's blonde in the fan fiction I've read. She's also blonde in the 2004 Takarazuka version of the Yeston & Kopit musical. ALW made her dark haired because of Sarah Brightman. Most fanfictions take the musical for looks. Kay did too, at least for Christine.
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Post by nijil-xnv on Dec 15, 2011 22:26:00 GMT -6
Huh. I feel like she was blonde in more than that... She's blonde in the fan fiction I've read. She's also blonde in the 2004 Takarazuka version of the Yeston & Kopit musical. ALW made her dark haired because of Sarah Brightman. Most fanfictions take the musical for looks. Kay did too, at least for Christine. I never picked up on her being blonde in the book. I've read more than once as well and still I cant recall that being said... Not that it isn't. Wonder why I can't place the page...
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Post by The-Savage-Nymph on Dec 16, 2011 1:55:53 GMT -6
She's also blonde in the 2004 Takarazuka version of the Yeston & Kopit musical. ALW made her dark haired because of Sarah Brightman. Most fanfictions take the musical for looks. Kay did too, at least for Christine. I never picked up on her being blonde in the book. I've read more than once as well and still I cant recall that being said... Not that it isn't. Wonder why I can't place the page... It is only mentioned once, if I recall correctly. It's when the story about Little Lotte is told. How Papa Daaé would tell about her looks and Raoul would "look at Christines golden locks and her blue eyes" Lotte had blond hair and blue eyes too...
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Post by nijil-xnv on Dec 16, 2011 12:42:27 GMT -6
I never picked up on her being blonde in the book. I've read more than once as well and still I cant recall that being said... Not that it isn't. Wonder why I can't place the page... It is only mentioned once, if I recall correctly. It's when the story about Little Lotte is told. How Papa Daaé would tell about her looks and Raoul would "look at Christines golden locks and her blue eyes" Lotte had blond hair and blue eyes too... Oh. Hmm, I will have to look now.
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Post by salierisantfarm on Dec 16, 2011 20:31:31 GMT -6
I love how this began as "Let's talk about Claude Rains" and quickly became "Let's talk about Christine's hair." Personally, I like that they spell his Erik as Erique. It just adds a little touch of FANCY!!
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Post by nijil-xnv on Dec 16, 2011 20:45:41 GMT -6
I love how this began as "Let's talk about Claude Rains" and quickly became "Let's talk about Christine's hair." Personally, I like that they spell his Erik as Erique. It just adds a little touch of FANCY!! Hahaha! Yeah, this the way of things. At least there's a Christine with hair in the Claude Rains movie! And I like that, too! But at work whenever someone comes in named Eric I always have to ask the spelling and they look at me weird. If they didn't speifcy the C I would always use a K and then their names on our system would be messed up... And yeh.
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Post by asianorange on Dec 16, 2011 21:15:32 GMT -6
Personally, I like that they spell his Erik as Erique. It just adds a little touch of FANCY!! Haha...I love that. "Fancy!"
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Post by The-Savage-Nymph on Dec 17, 2011 14:43:11 GMT -6
Personally, I like that they spell his Erik as Erique. It just adds a little touch of FANCY!! Haha...I love that. "Fancy!" Erique est très FANCY, non? (or something like that)
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Post by salierisantfarm on Dec 18, 2011 14:37:34 GMT -6
Haha...I love that. "Fancy!" Erique est très FANCY, non? (or something like that) Oui!
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Post by salierisantfarm on Dec 18, 2011 14:40:32 GMT -6
Also, he has some of the BEST LINES ever to be included in any version of Phantom. Example (and forgive me if I get some of this wrong): "Life here is like a resurrection! The music comes down and the darkness distills it, purging it of the pain from which it was made."
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